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		<title>By: Finance articles and news &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rockers Who Think They Can Rap . . . A to Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finance articles and news &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Rockers Who Think They Can Rap . . . A to Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A to Z of rock covers to famous rap songs.read more &#124; digg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ekko</title>
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		<dc:creator>ekko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t &quot;belie&quot; a misunderstanding, but it may reflect one.  As for rappers not singing, I disagree.  50 Cent frequently sings, and many other do.  If rap is not singing, then Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett don&#039;t sing, either.

But I mostly refer to rap cuts as &quot;songs&quot; because you try to think of synonyms for &quot;song.&quot;  There ain&#039;t that many.  And writing the word &quot;cut&quot; over and over gets boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t &#8220;belie&#8221; a misunderstanding, but it may reflect one.  As for rappers not singing, I disagree.  50 Cent frequently sings, and many other do.  If rap is not singing, then Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett don&#8217;t sing, either.</p>
<p>But I mostly refer to rap cuts as &#8220;songs&#8221; because you try to think of synonyms for &#8220;song.&#8221;  There ain&#8217;t that many.  And writing the word &#8220;cut&#8221; over and over gets boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that you kept referring to rap cuts as &quot;songs&quot;.  I think this belies a basic understanding.  While I&#039;ll freely admit that rap is an art form and, thus, it&#039;s performers are artists in every sense of the word, they...are...not...singers.  So, if there is a piece of work one could describe as rap, it cannot be described as a song because the performer is not a singer, he is a rapper.  There are hybrids aplenty, to be sure.  But, it would more accurately be described as a rap cut that has singing in it or a song with a rap break or chorus.

Further, to beat this dead horse ever more dead, can someone explain to me why rap acts are finding their way into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, while not a single rock act has be welcomed into the Rap Hall Of Fame?  Consider this...take any successful rap group and any successful rock group.  Give them 30 days to duplicate one of the other&#039;s single pieces of work (song or rap cut).  I would be willing to bet that the rock group would be able to figure out a way to at least approximate the rap piece, while I doubt the rap group could learn how to play an array of musical instruments in 30 days time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that you kept referring to rap cuts as &#8220;songs&#8221;.  I think this belies a basic understanding.  While I&#8217;ll freely admit that rap is an art form and, thus, it&#8217;s performers are artists in every sense of the word, they&#8230;are&#8230;not&#8230;singers.  So, if there is a piece of work one could describe as rap, it cannot be described as a song because the performer is not a singer, he is a rapper.  There are hybrids aplenty, to be sure.  But, it would more accurately be described as a rap cut that has singing in it or a song with a rap break or chorus.</p>
<p>Further, to beat this dead horse ever more dead, can someone explain to me why rap acts are finding their way into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, while not a single rock act has be welcomed into the Rap Hall Of Fame?  Consider this&#8230;take any successful rap group and any successful rock group.  Give them 30 days to duplicate one of the other&#8217;s single pieces of work (song or rap cut).  I would be willing to bet that the rock group would be able to figure out a way to at least approximate the rap piece, while I doubt the rap group could learn how to play an array of musical instruments in 30 days time.</p>
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		<title>By: Panda Bears</title>
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		<dc:creator>Panda Bears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt she is a great singer with so much talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt she is a great singer with so much talent.</p>
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		<title>By: ROCKERS WHO THINK THEY . . . HAVE SOUL? A to E! &#171; Berkeley Place</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyplaceblog.com/2007/08/27/rockers-who-think-they-can-rap-a-to-z/comment-page-1/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>ROCKERS WHO THINK THEY . . . HAVE SOUL? A to E! &#171; Berkeley Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WHO THINK THEY . . . HAVE SOUL? A to&#160;E!  Didja like &#8220;Rockers Who Think They Can Rap&#8221; and &#8220;More Rockers Who Think They Can Rap?&#8221; Well, then you might enjoy this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WHO THINK THEY . . . HAVE SOUL? A to&nbsp;E!  Didja like &#8220;Rockers Who Think They Can Rap&#8221; and &#8220;More Rockers Who Think They Can Rap?&#8221; Well, then you might enjoy this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MORE ROCKERS WHO THINK THEY CAN RAP, A to Z &#171; Berkeley Place</title>
		<link>http://www.berkeleyplaceblog.com/2007/08/27/rockers-who-think-they-can-rap-a-to-z/comment-page-1/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>MORE ROCKERS WHO THINK THEY CAN RAP, A to Z &#171; Berkeley Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ROCKERS WHO THINK THEY CAN RAP, A to&#160;Z  Back in August of last year, I posted &#8220;Rockers Who Think They Can Rap.&#8221; Predictably, I got many nasty comments from folks who think I don&#8217;t know anything [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ROCKERS WHO THINK THEY CAN RAP, A to&nbsp;Z  Back in August of last year, I posted &#8220;Rockers Who Think They Can Rap.&#8221; Predictably, I got many nasty comments from folks who think I don&#8217;t know anything [...]</p>
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		<title>By: therenovator</title>
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		<dc:creator>therenovator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you fucking suck you moron.  rage aren&#039;t rapping./</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you fucking suck you moron.  rage aren&#8217;t rapping./</p>
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		<title>By: Idetrorce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idetrorce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting, but I don&#039;t agree with you
Idetrorce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting, but I don&#8217;t agree with you<br />
Idetrorce</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, that&#039;s the De La on &quot;Feel Good Inc.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, that&#8217;s the De La on &#8220;Feel Good Inc.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ass Hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ass Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in answer to why i had to make a hasty escape from the venue when the vines started covering &#039;ms. jackson&#039;:

first up it was 2/3 of the way through a horrible gig - on their day, the vines were a decent band, but they were very inconsistent live (i don&#039;t know if that was something to do with his medical condition). this tipped the balance.

second, &#039;ironic&#039; covers of pop / rnb / rap hits were getting overdone by mid-level indie rock acts at the time. i&#039;d recently seen elbow do &#039;independent woman&#039;, electric soft parade do &#039;can&#039;t get you out of my head&#039;, magic numbers do &#039;crazy in love&#039; ... others i&#039;ve purged from my memory ... something had to give. all great songs, but given a &quot;lick of authenticity&quot; and buried under a hundredweight of dreary indie guitars.

it&#039;s worth pointing out, though, that most of the covers you&#039;ve posted here take the opposite approach, and really embrace the exciting, inventive aspects of the songs they&#039;re covering, rather than redicing them to sludge. keep up the good work, sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in answer to why i had to make a hasty escape from the venue when the vines started covering &#8216;ms. jackson&#8217;:</p>
<p>first up it was 2/3 of the way through a horrible gig &#8211; on their day, the vines were a decent band, but they were very inconsistent live (i don&#8217;t know if that was something to do with his medical condition). this tipped the balance.</p>
<p>second, &#8216;ironic&#8217; covers of pop / rnb / rap hits were getting overdone by mid-level indie rock acts at the time. i&#8217;d recently seen elbow do &#8216;independent woman&#8217;, electric soft parade do &#8216;can&#8217;t get you out of my head&#8217;, magic numbers do &#8216;crazy in love&#8217; &#8230; others i&#8217;ve purged from my memory &#8230; something had to give. all great songs, but given a &#8220;lick of authenticity&#8221; and buried under a hundredweight of dreary indie guitars.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s worth pointing out, though, that most of the covers you&#8217;ve posted here take the opposite approach, and really embrace the exciting, inventive aspects of the songs they&#8217;re covering, rather than redicing them to sludge. keep up the good work, sir!</p>
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